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	<description>Musings from and about living in Mexico</description>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.vivaveracruz.com/blog/?p=727&#038;cpage=1#comment-601488</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 03:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your problems with insurance may be with the company you choose ( Geico ) We had them for a short while and dumped them reaal fast for a variety of reasons.
What we are doing and so far it works real well, ( although it is a real hassle reversing it over the Internet ) is to temporarily suspend our coverage on our car while we are in Mexico ( 9 months out of the year )and keep only the barest minimum 3rd oartyy liability and completely drop the coverage on our M.H.  
So fa they have not had a problem giving us an almost immediate refund of the annual premium paid and then just prior to returning to the U.S. for 3 months we re-instate the full ( liabilitty only ) coverage on the car and also put the same coverage back on the M.H.  With our carrier (AARP)
there&#039;s some mental block about having a car and a M.H. on the same policy that requires infinite patience to explain to them when you re-instate coverage, but so far it is working. 
However if it ever geets to be too much of a hassle with the M.H. we too will join the criminal ranks of the uninsured and just take our chances</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your problems with insurance may be with the company you choose ( Geico ) We had them for a short while and dumped them reaal fast for a variety of reasons.<br />
What we are doing and so far it works real well, ( although it is a real hassle reversing it over the Internet ) is to temporarily suspend our coverage on our car while we are in Mexico ( 9 months out of the year )and keep only the barest minimum 3rd oartyy liability and completely drop the coverage on our M.H.<br />
So fa they have not had a problem giving us an almost immediate refund of the annual premium paid and then just prior to returning to the U.S. for 3 months we re-instate the full ( liabilitty only ) coverage on the car and also put the same coverage back on the M.H.  With our carrier (AARP)<br />
there&#8217;s some mental block about having a car and a M.H. on the same policy that requires infinite patience to explain to them when you re-instate coverage, but so far it is working.<br />
However if it ever geets to be too much of a hassle with the M.H. we too will join the criminal ranks of the uninsured and just take our chances</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
		<link>http://www.vivaveracruz.com/blog/?p=727&#038;cpage=1#comment-584319</link>
		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had several US cars here in Veracruz and Puebla with expired plates, and never have I been stopped by the Mexican Police for that.  The times I have been stopped for something else, they didn&#039;t even mention the expired US plates.  So, keep it simple; don&#039;t pay US registration nor US insurance and when you go to the states, fly and rent a car. MUCH CHEAPER</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had several US cars here in Veracruz and Puebla with expired plates, and never have I been stopped by the Mexican Police for that.  The times I have been stopped for something else, they didn&#8217;t even mention the expired US plates.  So, keep it simple; don&#8217;t pay US registration nor US insurance and when you go to the states, fly and rent a car. MUCH CHEAPER</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.vivaveracruz.com/blog/?p=727&#038;cpage=1#comment-583905</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ned good to see you here. The problem with your scenario is about to arrive in Texas. It is already here in Colorado and Nevada. It is that you cannot keep your registration active without ongoing insurance. There are some schemes like paying for your vehicle(s) to be stored and off the roadways - but it is darn complicated. 

The insurance scenario you are using would work with a legally current registered Mexican vehicle as well - the conundrum is keeping registration on a U.S. licensed vehicle. Also generally insurance companies do not take to interrupted service as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ned good to see you here. The problem with your scenario is about to arrive in Texas. It is already here in Colorado and Nevada. It is that you cannot keep your registration active without ongoing insurance. There are some schemes like paying for your vehicle(s) to be stored and off the roadways &#8211; but it is darn complicated. </p>
<p>The insurance scenario you are using would work with a legally current registered Mexican vehicle as well &#8211; the conundrum is keeping registration on a U.S. licensed vehicle. Also generally insurance companies do not take to interrupted service as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Ned</title>
		<link>http://www.vivaveracruz.com/blog/?p=727&#038;cpage=1#comment-583788</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I buy temporary insurance when we go to Texas from Bravo Insurance in Laredo. You can do everything online. I bought a one month policy in May for my Explorer and it was $178.
Bravo Insurance
956-723-3657 or 800-442-7286
info@bravoinsurance.biz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I buy temporary insurance when we go to Texas from Bravo Insurance in Laredo. You can do everything online. I bought a one month policy in May for my Explorer and it was $178.<br />
Bravo Insurance<br />
956-723-3657 or 800-442-7286<br />
<a href="mailto:info@bravoinsurance.biz">info@bravoinsurance.biz</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.vivaveracruz.com/blog/?p=727&#038;cpage=1#comment-582278</link>
		<dc:creator>John Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My motorcycle insurance is only for six months, even though it is covered through out the year because they know i won&#039;t be riding it in the winter around here.  

It seems to me that if they can figure that one out the rest would be a no brainer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My motorcycle insurance is only for six months, even though it is covered through out the year because they know i won&#8217;t be riding it in the winter around here.  </p>
<p>It seems to me that if they can figure that one out the rest would be a no brainer?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.vivaveracruz.com/blog/?p=727&#038;cpage=1#comment-579860</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BJ - I have heard of:
&quot;“self insured” by posting a bond (fairly inexpensive is my recollection) &quot;

But also as you suggest this is perhaps muy difficult now that the insurance companies have been lobbying the government to their advantage for many years - let us know what you find out.

Juan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BJ &#8211; I have heard of:<br />
&#8220;“self insured” by posting a bond (fairly inexpensive is my recollection) &#8221;</p>
<p>But also as you suggest this is perhaps muy difficult now that the insurance companies have been lobbying the government to their advantage for many years &#8211; let us know what you find out.</p>
<p>Juan</p>
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		<title>By: BJ</title>
		<link>http://www.vivaveracruz.com/blog/?p=727&#038;cpage=1#comment-579851</link>
		<dc:creator>BJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh do I hear all of you. 

We have three vehicles &amp; two drivers, and insure all three (also with Geico).  Prior to my recent retirement, two were needed daily (no public transportation or park &amp; ride or similar things available); the third, a vehicle that was almost never used, was basically a &quot;security&quot; thing to make it look like someone was home during the day (also served as an emergency back up).  

Now that we&#039;re planning to spend some time in Mexico, we&#039;ll be faced with the same annoying and costly issues.  There may be one other alternative.  Consider the following:

In the 70&#039;s my dad got perturbed with high auto insurance rates &amp; refused to keep paying them.  He then became &quot;self insured&quot; by posting a bond (fairly inexpensive is my recollection) with the state of Louisiana that basically said that he was personally responsible for XXX $$$ if he caused an accident or injury to another while driving x or x vehicle.  He carried a copy of the bond document in both of his vehicles.

I&#039;m not sure who he went to, to accomplish this, but know that he did it &amp; it was kept &quot;in force&quot; until he died.

We think that we may look into something similar, but suspect that the &quot;insurance lobby&quot; in our state, which has increased in strength during the last 30 years has lobbied to get that &quot;loophole&quot; removed.

Worth checking into.

BJ


Like all insurance, if damage or &quot;medical related stuff&quot; exceeds the limits of the policy, the injured can follow up by suing the individual if they haven&#039;t already agreed to pay the excess amounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh do I hear all of you. </p>
<p>We have three vehicles &amp; two drivers, and insure all three (also with Geico).  Prior to my recent retirement, two were needed daily (no public transportation or park &amp; ride or similar things available); the third, a vehicle that was almost never used, was basically a &#8220;security&#8221; thing to make it look like someone was home during the day (also served as an emergency back up).  </p>
<p>Now that we&#8217;re planning to spend some time in Mexico, we&#8217;ll be faced with the same annoying and costly issues.  There may be one other alternative.  Consider the following:</p>
<p>In the 70&#8242;s my dad got perturbed with high auto insurance rates &amp; refused to keep paying them.  He then became &#8220;self insured&#8221; by posting a bond (fairly inexpensive is my recollection) with the state of Louisiana that basically said that he was personally responsible for XXX $$$ if he caused an accident or injury to another while driving x or x vehicle.  He carried a copy of the bond document in both of his vehicles.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure who he went to, to accomplish this, but know that he did it &amp; it was kept &#8220;in force&#8221; until he died.</p>
<p>We think that we may look into something similar, but suspect that the &#8220;insurance lobby&#8221; in our state, which has increased in strength during the last 30 years has lobbied to get that &#8220;loophole&#8221; removed.</p>
<p>Worth checking into.</p>
<p>BJ</p>
<p>Like all insurance, if damage or &#8220;medical related stuff&#8221; exceeds the limits of the policy, the injured can follow up by suing the individual if they haven&#8217;t already agreed to pay the excess amounts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonna</title>
		<link>http://www.vivaveracruz.com/blog/?p=727&#038;cpage=1#comment-579775</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve hit one of my main hates, insurance companies.  I consider all insurance to be extortion, pay us or something bad will happen to you and if you pay us and something bad happens we will do everything we can including lie and steal to avoid paying you.  

I&#039;m pondering these car insurance questions myself.  So far, I just pay.  The time is coming though when it won&#039;t be even marginally worth it and I&#039;ll have to find another solution.  I&#039;m hoping to put my RV and car in &#039;off road&#039; status with my insurance but I doubt it will work. 

Friends &#039;thought&#039; they had done that when they took a Vanagon to South America for a year.  On returning it to the US they discovered that even though they paid a small &#039;unused&#039; fee to the insurance company, their costs went back to the level of someone with interrupted insurance - much higher.  

I even hate that they print all their legal outs on crappy onion skin type paper that is hard to read and separate.  I don&#039;t think there is a single thing I find positive about dealing with any insurance company.  Sometimes it is just less painful than others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve hit one of my main hates, insurance companies.  I consider all insurance to be extortion, pay us or something bad will happen to you and if you pay us and something bad happens we will do everything we can including lie and steal to avoid paying you.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m pondering these car insurance questions myself.  So far, I just pay.  The time is coming though when it won&#8217;t be even marginally worth it and I&#8217;ll have to find another solution.  I&#8217;m hoping to put my RV and car in &#8216;off road&#8217; status with my insurance but I doubt it will work. </p>
<p>Friends &#8216;thought&#8217; they had done that when they took a Vanagon to South America for a year.  On returning it to the US they discovered that even though they paid a small &#8216;unused&#8217; fee to the insurance company, their costs went back to the level of someone with interrupted insurance &#8211; much higher.  </p>
<p>I even hate that they print all their legal outs on crappy onion skin type paper that is hard to read and separate.  I don&#8217;t think there is a single thing I find positive about dealing with any insurance company.  Sometimes it is just less painful than others.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.vivaveracruz.com/blog/?p=727&#038;cpage=1#comment-579616</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a libertarian solution?  Vehicle registration and insurance that would be valid throughout the NAFTA region?  I realize that these concerns are usual left to states and provinces, but -- as Andee would have said -- why not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a libertarian solution?  Vehicle registration and insurance that would be valid throughout the NAFTA region?  I realize that these concerns are usual left to states and provinces, but &#8212; as Andee would have said &#8212; why not?</p>
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